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To: Process Boy who wrote (71327)	9/8/1999 12:20:00 AM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574212

PB, Re: "AMD process" I have posted several times that I agree that AMD is pushing the front end to or close to 0.18 micron. And have also cautioned my AMD kamikaze bretheren that it is therefore unlikely that a 2x speed improvement will show up in the move to 0.18 and Cu- as some have been hoping for. On the other hand the next move on a 0.18 BEOL will be MUCH LOWER risk as they seem to have the FEOL under control and yielding so well. So I think I have been fairly consistent on this. But I do expect a 50% improvement once Cu comes in as the RC delays will drop dramatically with Cu. Now we also know that Intels 0.18 with coppermine BOMBED. We also know that Leff on the transistors is now pushed well beyond 140nm to get to the 733Mhz speed grades. One can almost say that intel is running a 0.13 FEOL with a 0.18 BEOL to compete with AMD's 0.25 K7's. Is this terrible news - not really it just shows how well Intel can perform under pressure. I am basically taking umbrage at the crap on the PPC and Mots process and somehow that reflecting on how the K7 will scale. If AMD does deliver 700-750Mhz K7's in coming few months, they should be applauded for it. Not this ceaseless fud. regards, Kash

To: Process Boy who wrote (71327)	9/8/1999 12:22:00 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574212

RE:"If AMD goes from 700 to 1000 on .25 in one jump, it'll be a historic event. I'm basing this on my experience. If it scales to .25 over time, I am not worried, based on what I have learned about AMD's current process." Where did you come up with the one jump scenario?