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To: TigerPaw who wrote (40921)	4/3/2000 10:46:00 PM
From: Jay Fisk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

"Today's decision was a clear victory for the American consumer...." We heard that quote dozens of times today from the DoJ and frau Reno. What a crock ! Does anyone believe that any "penalty" paid by Microsoft will equal the market value lost to the 55 million Americans who own mutual funds (who in turn own MSFT) or Nazdaq-listed equities that got trashed today ? Looks like the Greenspan "Wealth Effect" got popped on cue. There are plenty of true monopolies that deserve prosecution, start with cartels like the NASD, Cali, or even OPEC. </end rant>

To: TigerPaw who wrote (40921)	4/3/2000 11:51:00 PM
From: Frank Griffin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

Off topic Tiger Paw, Why do you think Janet Reno and her merry little band refuses to appoint an independent counsel to determine the facts in Al Gores e mails, buddhist temple fund raising, etc.? Why does she intercede in the Elian Gonzalez issue rather than allowing the court system to work? Do you believe she has integrity? Do you believe she is a pawn for her bosses at the White House? Would appreciate your opinions since you seem to endorse their actions. Frank

To: TigerPaw who wrote (40921)	4/4/2000 10:02:00 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

>>DR-DOS, Word-Perfect, Paradox, Borland Compilers and Stacker to name a few.<< DR-DOS... how's the Caldera lawsuit going? WP, Paradox... too late to market with windows versions... didn't take win3.0 seriously and got clobbered by about win 3.1 or thereabouts. Borland Compilers... still in business as Inprise, working to put Delphi on Linux... very kewl... best compilers I've used... used to use quick c editor with turbo assembler from command line in win3.0. Stacker was put out of business by cheap, large hard drives... also dbl/drvspace was simply more elegant. That lawsuit was much ado about nothing. To me the real issue here is the application of copyright laws. MSFT has their own ideas about this and in all of the hubbub surrounding the proceedings, no one has much discussed the idea of intellectual property. I'm fairly convinced in any case that Asia will never be a major market for commercial software, because why would they buy something they could just copy? The Chinese Red Army is in the business of counterfeiting. That won't stop any time soon. I'm of the opinion in any event that iron-grip control from the developer's keyboard to my hard drive is a bad thing... I should be free to copy the media. MSFT should make a living off of services instead of royalties, but that would really ruin their scheme wouldn't it? I really think the world would be a better place if anyone could copy any media and the originator of "intellectual property" could get a cut out of any "pirate's" duplication and resale of said property. Of course that makes me a communist and my ideas are dangerous to the very foundations of western civilization, no? I have no problem with hardware and/or software copy-protection schemes. What I have a problem with is a legal system which tries to enforce copy protection. This whole DOJ case is once again, much ado about nothing... two sides discussing issues which are of little or no relevance to the world at large... FWIW Andy

To: TigerPaw who wrote (40921)	4/28/2001 6:37:31 PM
From: Thunder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

The judge's findings are clear that there is no crime in being a monopoly. It is what you do as a monopoly that can be a crime. Microsoft has run other companies out of business for years through questionable practices. DR-DOS, Word-Perfect, Paradox, Borland Compilers and Stacker to name a few. What makes the case different now is the clarity. All of those other products competed from the start with a Microsoft product and it could not be proven that it was the anti-competitive behavior which caused their demise. With Netscape there was a clear innovator with a commanding market presence and no competing Microsoft product. The actions by the Microsoft team were accordingly very clear and directed. Are things just as clear to you now? TIA Thunder