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To: Bluefish who wrote (32549)2/14/2001 1:57:36 AM
From: Chris land  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Bluefish, I have a much better picture of who is who in this fiasco now and since it is in the open I feel I have a right to express my views. Your post brought tears to my eyes and a pain to my spirit. Family breakups are the most heart-rendering events known to man and are definitely on the increase in America.

When our hearts are broken we always search for something to fill it. It appears that you are familiar with our Lord Jesus and I pray that this proves to be an opportunity for you to draw even closer to him.

If someone is living in sin then they should be confronted like you say. With gentleness and meekness at first hoping to gain the person back. If that doesn't work then a beam across the ole forehead is not out of the question. Doesn't mean you love them less, it's just that they are a heavy sleeper and it takes a bit more effort to wake them from up from their slumber.

I am not taking any sides but I feel a necessity for prayer. In fact, I've already had a burden for this situation for about two months now and have to question myself why I haven't been doing more praying like I should.

Chris



To: Bluefish who wrote (32549)2/14/2001 9:52:27 AM
From: haqihana  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Bluefish, I am, also, very saddened by the turn of events. Perhaps it would have been better had you revealed your identity to me. The discussion could have been more productive, and less antagonistic. In researching your profile, it was clear that you were concentrating on me, but could not understand why. I even told you, at the time it occurred, about the bitter exchange between your mother and I on this thread, but you said nothing.

What I said to her, I said in anger. Don't tell me you have not said bitter things in anger before. Not only have I heard you do so, but every human I have ever known does such things. To re-hash all that was said, would not mend any fences, nor change any minds, so I will leave it at that. Any further conversation concerning what was said, by all parties concerned, would not help, or change anything. It was evident that the relationship between your mother, and I, was over. Neither man, nor woman, leaves a situation in which he feels happiness, and love. It was intimated that I had been lured away by Colleen. One cannot be lured away if there is any satisfaction where he is. These things happen, and cannot be prevented. Had she not chosen to attack me on this thread, none of this would have happened, especially when there was no way of knowing who mla was from the first verbal attacks. Yes, I am confrontational, and in debates, go for the jugular, but I am not alone in responsibility for this bitter exchange. If you will check the chronology of the posts, I attacked no one until I was attacked by, what I thought, was a stranger to me.

Yes, you have the computer savvy to check out Mark's computer.

Right after the separation, you told me that your mother was hurting, but later on you said she had gotten over it, and was getting things back in order in her life. Nothing, recently, has been said about her hurting.

You have already told me where my Mother resides. Perhaps, not the exact address, but enough information that I could find her if need be. I have already posted my real name, and age, several times on these threads, so duplication is not necessary.

I am not trying to be argumentative here, but please tell me where I said I had no heirs. Just send me the post number, and I will recant, and apologize. I am not saying I didn't say it, but cannot understand the circumstances under which I would do so. Of course, I do not deny the existence of you and Mark.

I could say something about the "special" meals that were prepared for me, but that would be counterproductive. They did more harm than good, but nothing serious resulted.

It's a pity it has come to this, but I was extremely unhappy in my existence with your mother, and made suggestions, not demands, on things that might have improved the situation, but they fell on deaf ears. If a business relationship is all you want, I will not beg for more.

Even though you do not think I am qualified to do so, I will continue to pray to God, and Jesus Christ, that I have been fortunate to have come into my life, and will also pray for a cessation of the hostilities. ~H~



To: Bluefish who wrote (32549)2/15/2001 12:37:57 AM
From: Jamey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Bluefish, welcome to the Ask God thread. Thank you for having the courage to confront the issues that are tearing at you right now.

Let me say this truthfully and as plainly as I can. You are a man, my son, and I have deep thankfulness for the honesty and sincerity of your post.

I have looked at life from a gutter to an angel's view from the joys of being free from the addiction of alcoholism. Nobody knows the deepness of the wounds that alcohol inflicts on a man and a family like I and other former alcoholics have personally experienced. I always had good intentions toward my loved ones and made many promises while dry. I would then pull the whole world down on my family with another relapse. Men that I know have promised their families that they would straighten up by writing in the Holy Bible that they would never touch another drop. They failed.

As a direct result of my former self, I am still paying through the loss of love by my youngest son, who is now 32. He has two sons of his own who I love deeply but have been unable to see for over 3 years because of the resentment that my son holds against me that I did not even know about until a small difference of opinion with him caused him to pull them away from me.

I just want you to know that I never intended to hurt anyone but the alcohol was even stronger than my love for my family and now, many deep feelings have to be mended before I can ever hope to have a relationship with my son and grandchildren again.

I ask you to use what I'm telling you to realize that you must find forgiveness and understanding in your heart about circumstances you are facing. In the end you must do it for your well being. A person cannot live a happy life with the poison of resentment flooding his soul.

What you can change, you must. What you cannot change, you must accept and go on with your life.

I had not planned to post tonight Bluefish, but I felt led to after reading your post. Your sincerity has helped me this night more than you can know.

Santiago