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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12900)	12/5/2001 8:36:57 PM
From: sim chambers	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

hawk- thanks for the reply. you clearly have a better handle on it than i. i just started reading this thread today, so yes i do not know as much as you if you are detecting racial overtones, it is not intended... i really dont have a problem with jews. i just want our policy to reflect good for all, and not standing up for one religion. it has cost us all. my ignorance of the history you stated in your post is exactly why i can see this clearly...your chain of events sounds like israel is in the right...fine. but i want to solve the problem. i identified the problem from now and lets move forward without all the old inputs. i have no religion, that is why my jew comments may sound harsh.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12900)	12/5/2001 9:11:19 PM
From: jjkirk	Respond to of 281500

Bravo! THAT was well written, cogent and compelling. I feel like I'm sitting on Mars Hill getting a great education...Nice work, Hawk...jj

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12900)	12/5/2001 9:55:46 PM
From: dvdw©	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Bravo Hawk; very well done. Illustrates the difference between reason and propaganda. The US need not cave in to the constant spun rationalizations that are put out on every issue by almost every source imaginable. The Arabs have a piss poor handle on the why America is what it is. The immigrants who make up this society are from every race, creed, & country. Together, We've carved from this land a significant culture of contribution from all our varied parts. We coexist largely in harmony, and we do not like being Terrorized by ignorant lackeys of a selfserving jihad. It's high time we ended this charade of Political Correctness, it's Arabs who want this fight.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12900)	12/5/2001 9:57:11 PM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Hawk, The Jews were ORIGINALLY given their land by the British through this mandate. They were given this land, WHICH THE BRITISH CONQUERED FROM THE OTTOMAN TURKS IN WWI, both in exchange for their service to the Allies, and as compensation for the atrocities that occurred during WWII. Therein lies a root of the problem for reasonable Palestinian and Arab folk. The people living in the mandated areas were citizens of the former empire with legal title to their land. (It's very likely the records from the time still exist although there may not be very many people who can read them). These folk were displaced and their land taken without compensation. This injustice has festered and the settlements policy is salt in the wound. Something should be done about it and nothing can while the low level warfare continues. Extremists, of course, don't want to see anything reasonable done but the hell with them - most palestinian folk want to get on with their lives and left to their own devices, would, because the fundamental culture there is like ours - it's business and trading. Israel has been impeded from dealing with this basic injustice so for all sorts of reasons which we both know about but in the end it will have to face it.