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To: heatsinker2 who wrote (81468)	6/3/2002 1:14:21 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

What didn't make sense is all these Hammer boards that have never been tested with a CPU faster than 800 Mhz? That doesn't make sense, the board design can't be complete until it has been tested with fast chips. It's not that I really want to come to Hammer's defense but I don't think there's really an issue here. It's a clock multiplier thing. What difference does it make to the board what the internal frequency is of the processor? The external specifications should remain identical. EP

To: heatsinker2 who wrote (81468)	6/3/2002 1:17:16 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: the board design can't be complete until it has been tested with fast chips. While it's true that a final validation must always be done, internal clock speed of a CPU is not even detectable by the motherboard (unless it's an unlocked CPU with multiplier being set externally), unless the CPU correctly responds to some kind of query. All the motherboard ever "sees" are the various I/O speeds, which are the same for an 800mhz chip, a 1.6ghz chip, a 2.4ghz chip, etc. On chip, operations take place at various multiples of these I/O speeds. All but final testing can be done using chips with lower than top speed internal multipliers. Since current draw goes up and I/O idle time goes down as internal clock speed goes up, some bugs can arise as internal clock speed increases, so boards should be validated at full, final, speed.

To: heatsinker2 who wrote (81468)	6/3/2002 3:36:10 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

"What is so disturbing" I am not sure about the "DEC veteran", but: "Prior to joining AMD, he spent six years at Apple Computer. There, as director of Macintosh product development, he was responsible for the development of all desktop Macintosh computers." - amd.com Keep in mind that the Dell's remark about "fragile Athlon platform", and many other Irongate issues, "timely" penetration of dual Athlons into server market, all this is in his "mastermind's" portfolio too. This is disturbing to me. - Ali