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To: JohnM who wrote (98106)	5/13/2003 11:05:28 AM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Waaaait a minute! Fouuuuuuul! Bad form--no gold star on the forehead for you, John. You had ended the debate on the Beeb, et al, after Nadine, in my estimation, skewered you. Are you willing to re-enter it now that Krugman has unwittingly come to your rescue? C2@didn'tyoucry"Uncle"oristhistheWWF.com

To: JohnM who wrote (98106)	5/13/2003 12:21:13 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

But we do have a system in which the major media companies have strong incentives to present the news in a way that pleases the party in power, and no incentive not to. John, the BBC is not "Critical" of the USA's policies. It is totally against them. In every shape and form. People who like that point of view follow BBC. You and I grew up with the three Networks. You thought their viewpoint was middle of the road. I thought it was to the left. With the advent of cable, we now have a variety of viewpoints available. You think the new POVs are all "right wing," you don't like that, and you run off to watch BBC. Krugman has the same problem, and blames the Networks for kowtowing to the Admin. What is happening is that the rise in ratings of the Cable news shows is forcing the Networks to evaluate their coverage. They had to show some Patriotism during the Iraq liberation, or lose all their viewers. This is not an attempt to please the Bushies. It is an attempt to please their viewers.

To: JohnM who wrote (98106)	5/13/2003 12:22:57 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>But we do have a system in which the major media companies have strong incentives to present the news in a way that pleases the party in power, and no incentive not to. << Krugman's rant on Fox is rather deliciously ironic coming from someone at the New York Times! Which, by the way, owns radio and tv stations, and thus has an ax of its own to grind before the FCC. nytco.com

To: JohnM who wrote (98106)	5/13/2003 12:30:26 PM
From: Lou Weed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Thanks for the article John.....very apt considering the discussion yesterday with regards to the BBC. As far as been skewered by impeccable logic....no disrespect to Nadine but that perception depends on how rose colored your glasses are I guess. MON.

To: JohnM who wrote (98106)	5/13/2003 12:37:08 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sharon Sets Hard Line on Settlements Policy By JAMES BENNET - NEW YORK TIMES Here ya go, John. I expect to see post after post from you about how the victimized Pals are suffering from that mean old Sharon's refusal to compromise. JERUSALEM, May 13 - Ahead of a meeting next week with President Bush, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon set a hard line today on retaining Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Mr. Sharon dismissed as not "on the horizon" any talk of changing Israel's settlement policy, and he dismissed suggestions that the Bush administration was pressing him to dismantle settlements. During a visit here over the weekend, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said that he raised the issue of settlements with Mr. Sharon, and that President Bush would pursue the matter when he sees Mr. Sharon on May 20. In an interview with Israeli television, Mr. Powell said he told Mr. Sharon that settlements were "a problem," and he said the president would speak to the prime minister "in very open, straightforward, honest, candid terms about settlement activity." A new American-backed peace plan, known as the road map, calls on Israel to dismantle all settlement outposts built since March 2001, at the same time that the Palestinian Authority cracks down on terrorism. It also calls for a freeze on Israeli settlements. Mr. Sharon insists that the Palestinians must end incitement and dismantle all terrorist organizations before Israel can begin to make concessions. REST AT: nytimes.com