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To: marcos who wrote (113383)	8/29/2003 6:46:06 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

U.S. taxpayers may end up paying a lot more to rebuild Iraq realcities.com

To: marcos who wrote (113383)	8/29/2003 6:52:51 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Marcos, Except for your desire to humiliate the neocons, you, scott and wesley clark may end up offering a serious alternative to bush admin fp. I think what we agree on now is that despite our attitudes to the war at inception, we now realize how important it is for the freer(r is a concession to you) world to make sure a stable, independent, free, somewhat democratic iraq exists a year or two down the road. Whether iraq was a key fight in the war on terror back in May is now moot. It certainly is now. Mike

To: marcos who wrote (113383)	8/29/2003 6:56:17 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Thanks for the recognition that destroying US foreign policy may be too high a price to pay for political victory.

To: marcos who wrote (113383)	8/29/2003 9:20:45 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I'm afraid most of what you posted is wishful thinking. It could only happen if the Control Freaks in Charge have a "on the road to Damascus" moment, and see the world as it truly is, and submerge their vast egos in favor of the national interest. Highly unlikely. No, far more plausible is that, up till the moment of total disaster and defeat, they will keep saying, "Send another division in......I can see the light at the end of the tunnel...." And calling us traitors and defeatists, when we point out the massive dissonance between their rhetoric and reality. <... there is a responsiblity that's been incurred here...> Yes, there has, a crime has been committed, but no amount of further meddling can put it right. The debt will never be paid, All the King's men cannot put Humpty Dumpty back together again. Everything we do, just creates more chaos. In Vietnam, there was Order and Peace, but only after the last American helicopter left the embassy at soon-to-be-Ho Chi Minh City.