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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Richnorth who wrote (822)	12/8/2004 9:30:51 AM
From: Zakrosian	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224691

Rich - You believe everything you read - or just things that are anti-American? I suppose it's remotely possible that the coward's report is accurate, and that the lack of any corroboration by any of the hundred thousand+ other servicemen and journalists who've been there the past couple years is just a huge conspiracy to mask the truth, but I kind of doubt it. I'm beginning to understand why the National Lampoon referred to Canada as " The Retarded Giant on Our Doorstep." AWOL and AINO (American in Name Only) Michelle Malkin December 8, 2004 Fugitive U.S. soldier Jeremy Hinzman is an unrepentant embarrassment to his country of birth. Last year, he deserted from the 82nd Airborne Division, fled to Canada and became the anti-war movement's sexiest man alive. Now, in a desperate bid for refugee status, this AWOL poster boy is collectively smearing our brave men and women in Iraq as war criminals to save his hide. Do our neighbors to the north really want to become a paradise for America's cut-and-run reprobates? Apparently so. At Hinzman's refugee hearing on Monday, the National Post reports, “demonstrators braved the morning snow and icy winds to show their support, carrying signs such as ‘Canada should welcome war resisters.'" Perhaps too much drug-addled ‘60s nostalgia has burnt out the bleeding-hearts pacifists' brain cells. But there is a Michael Moore-sized distinction between Hinzman and the thousands of “resisters” who fled to Canada during the Vietnam War. Unlike the American draft dodgers who crossed the northern border more than three decades ago, Hinzman volunteered for military service in January 2001. He joined of his own free will. Nobody forced him to go to the recruitment office. Nobody dragged him to Fort Bragg. He happily cashed in his Army paychecks until deployment to Afghanistan was imminent. After his application for conscientious-objector status was rejected, he grudgingly finished his stint in Afghanistan, declared opposition to the coming war in Iraq, packed up his wife and infant son, and waltzed into the open arms of Toronto's radical leftists. It's been one big pacifist kumbayah ever since -- a dazzling procession of campus tributes, rock-star galas, and international media martyrdom. And when he's not on his tour of self-promotional duty, Hinzman and his wife (a feminist social worker who has also applied for asylum in Canada) are savoring the good life in their newly adopted home. Hinzman reports on his own snazzy Web site: "In the mornings, we usually take (son) Liam to various playgroups in our neighborhood. In the afternoon, we alternate which one of us cooks dinner. I also try to go for a run while Liam naps. In the evening we play with our son and often go to various parts of Toronto and 'people watch' to get Liam out of the house. After he goes to sleep for the night, I try to read or Nga (Hinzman's wife) and I watch a movie or do various other things. A great deal of this routine, or lack thereof, will probably soon change after I get a work permit and find some sort of employment." Hinzman is enjoying his domestic tranquility on the backs of each and every American military man and woman who is living up to his or her commitment to uphold a sworn oath of duty. Hinzman and his lawyer plan to argue to Canadian immigration officials that American soldiers are guilty of war crimes and that forcing Hinzman to fight in Iraq would have likely made him a war criminal. Among the witnesses testifying on Hinzman's behalf is former U.S. Marine Staff Sgt. Jimmy Massey, the Winter Soldier of the 21st century, who claims his platoon killed “a bunch of innocent civilians.” Massey has been making the rounds in the French media and other America-hating swamps. Several others have followed Hinzman's trail, hoping Canada will buy into their sob stories. But by embracing our cowards, Canada undermines not only the war on terror but also its own asylum system. American deserters face neither execution nor persecution if returned to the United States. Just look at Petty Officer 3rd Class Pablo Paredes, who on Monday refused to board his Navy ship in protest of the war on Iraq. Unlike Hinzman, Paredes is ready and willing to go to jail. After his release, Paredes is sure to get a book deal, a CBS made-for-TV movie, a party at Susan Sarandon's, and honorary Canadian citizenship -- if he doesn't apply for it himself first. If Hinzman had half a brain and as much spine, he'd come back to the States and face the music. But that would require an ounce of American character that is as foreign to him as it is to his Canadian comrades. Michelle Malkin is a syndicated columnist and maintains her weblog at michellemalkin.com

To: Richnorth who wrote (822)	12/8/2004 12:16:19 PM
From: cirrus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224691

I have seen several reports of soldiers firing on a vehicles that refused to obey signals to stop, forcing the soldiers to fire, only to find that they had killed unarmed men, women and children. The soldiers were devastated. Many have children of their own and saw their children in the faces of the children they killed. It's hell, and soldiers will spend the rest of their lives agonizing over it. Why did the driver not obey the stop signs in multiple languages and symbols, the shouted orders, the warning shots? Why did he speed up as he approached? Why? Unfortunately, this is a frequent tragedy without a ready answer. Is it a "gross and disgraceful act"? No. In a war where car bombs are a weapon of choice, soldiers have no choice to shoot vehicles that, for whatever reason, refuse to obey orders to stop when approaching checkpoints. If one reads carefully, it Massey stated the troops fired only after the vehicles failed to stop. I was and remain a firm opponent of this war, and admit that American troops have made mistakes during the fog of war, but I object to your characterization of them as brutal savages who kill "unarmed women and children, indiscriminately". On several occasions, his soldiers pumped hundreds of bullets into cars that failed to stop at U.S. military checkpoints, killing all occupants - who were later found to be unarmed, Massey said.

To: Richnorth who wrote (822)	12/8/2004 2:37:00 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224691

You're such a gullible sponge-like target for all distortions of the truth as long as it's negative towards the USA and it's courageous fighting forces. The U.S. military sets the standard for civilized warfare against a brutal, ruthless enemy. Anyone who defends the barbarians who just recently committed atrocities in Iraq against a charitable selfless woman, is a radical imbecile. Warning--post more insults to the USA's exemplary troops, and you will be placed on ban. This is your last warning on that subject. Are you sure you're not working for alQaeda?...you certainly sound worthy of them.