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Pastimes : Prophecy -- HYPE or HOPE? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: gregor who wrote (3145)	3/30/2005 8:31:59 AM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 5569

As an aside, just something I wonder, If Christ rules for 1000 years, who rules after?

To: gregor who wrote (3145)	3/30/2005 7:59:30 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

Too bad the Word doesn't say that anywhere.

To: gregor who wrote (3145)	3/30/2005 10:55:07 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

The so called rapture or Jesus gathering His elect is in Rev 14:14-20. First we go to meet the Lord in the air, He is sitting on a cloud. Then the rest of man are thrown into the wine press of the wrath of God right after we go up to meet the Lord. And this is all after the Great Tribulation. Great Tribulation - "rapture" - wrath of God. And this description matches the description Jesus Himself gave in Matthew 29-31 "But immediately after the tribulation of those days........ ........and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Paul said we would be taken up to meet the Lord in the air at the last trump. The last trump in Revelation sounds long after pre-tribbers think they will be gone. The last trump sounds after the great tribulation, not before. This is just a quickie refutation of pre-trib. But if you can't get around these points then pre-trib is a hoax foisted on us by the devil to deceive us. And that's what I believe.