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To: Lane3 who wrote (372)	6/5/2005 10:40:55 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541326

I don't think the moderates have a platform, but they clearly have ideas that they believe in. For example- the middle ground on abortion is held by moderates. Those people do not want abortion into the 9th monthy, but they also don't want to stop the right to abort at day 1. On gun control moderates want SOME waiting requirements, and some restrictions on types of weapons, but they do not want to ban guns completely. And so on. I think when you look at the middle of issues, you will find what moderates want- it's too bad they don't have a candidate or party right now to put their ideas in to a platform.

To: Lane3 who wrote (372)	6/5/2005 11:07:42 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541326

I don't know what centrism stands for Did you notice the word sneaking in with regard to Hillary in the Andrew Sullivan column LIndy posted this morning? I never thought I would consider her. EVER. It's a measure of my unhappiness with the extreme direction Bush et al have taken us that I will be considering her positions. It’s too early, of course, to say anything with much conviction about the future. But you can confidently say that Hillary has prepared herself with a discipline and intelligence that has prompted some of her critics, including me, to take another look. She has the money, she has the beginnings of a centrist appeal, she’ll have a Democratic party desperate to win back the White House. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton?

To: Lane3 who wrote (372)	6/5/2005 1:06:54 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541326

"That is a me too thing, just in the middle" I'm trying without success to get my head around this. I guess my problem is that I don't know what centrism stands for. Do you perceive it has a platform? The partisans have a lot of issues and activities to glad-hand and/or commiserate about. About the only thing I can think of that moderates can me-too about is the notion of "a pox on both." To which I heartily concur. <g> That was the point. Partisans from both end attacked the Senate 14. But they promptly issued statements reaffirming their self importance. One Senator said that nothing could happen in the Senate without their approval. They did not even form a cohesive platform. They formed an alliance on one issue of deep contention. I am not comparing the centrist here to the Senate 14. I am merely using it as an example of what can happen. Politics has ceased to be a place where egalitarians go to help their fellow man. It is a club where people who want to control things go to get more power. Do you realize how out of touch we all are? Bob Felt's daughter answered the door and let some middle aged journalist in to see her dad. She did not know who BOb Woodward was. I would have recognised the name if not the face. Most of the posters on political threads would have also. Middle America does not care that much.