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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (148)	5/15/2007 12:12:48 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

"We really need to beat AQ because they will follow us if we don't" No one believes that Nadine, except you and the other die-hard neocons. AQ is in 100 countries. Iraq isn't critical for them - it's just their basic training and Darwinian testing ground provided by us. They are an ally of convenience for the local Sunnis. We'll never beat them militarily, with our military that's designed to beat other nation-states. AQ is an IDEA, and it will take more powerful and persuasive IDEAS to defeat them. The Bushies have none, with their silly, stupid military war on a tactic. I think the only reason they haven't struck us again is they don't want to rock the boat of their best recruiter, George W. Bush, but, you'd really have to ask them. Iraq isn't the reason.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (148)	5/15/2007 8:43:06 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4152

First, we can try to understand a complicated situation and differentiate the US-AQ fight from sectarian battles, not just declare that it's all a civil war and all hopeless. .... We can do it if we have staying power. We really need to beat AQ because they will follow us if we don't. Probably if we do as well, but from a much weaker position. Iraq is a very poor setting from our POV to beat AQ. AQ is a small part of the battle there, the big fight is between Shia/Sunni and various insurgents & US. How are we going to win the small war with AQ in Iraq when it is swamped by a much larger war which we are not going to win? I don't see any strategy to win against AQ there, without somehow magically winning peace for all. If we want to beat AQ, let us do it in Afghanistan. Any way, once we leave Iraq, AQ will get kicked out by the Iraqi's, so we will win that way, even without solving the Iraq problem.