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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1036)	5/26/2007 1:10:25 PM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4152

You're as emotional as a schoolgirl, Hawk. The perfect illustration of the Well-Meaning American, thrashing around in countries you barely understand, causing more misery than good, trying to make them over in the image of an America that you perceive through your amazing Uncle Sam Jingo Rose Colored Glasses, convincing yourself that you are "saving" these poor brown folks who are nothing without your strong white presence. Maybe, before the next time you go tromping into someone else's country with your White Man's Burden slung across your back, you might want to consider the Hippocratic oath: First, do no harm.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1036)	5/26/2007 4:14:22 PM
From: MrLucky	Respond to of 4152

delete

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1036)	5/26/2007 4:14:42 PM
From: MrLucky	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

Well said.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1036)	5/28/2007 3:20:56 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 4152

Hawk's self serving, deluded dream: "But the future of Iraq lies in it's children. And when the going got tough in Iraq and I just couldn't figure out why people couldn't learn to forgive one another for past wrongs they've committed/suffered, I would remind myself that the CHILDREN have a right to grow up in a country that is better than the ones their parents were forced to live in. So please Whiffle, don't tell me your lofty words.. I don't want to hear them. Tell those children why you believe they aren't worth defending. The ugly reality: "The infant mortality rate in Iraq has increased by a shocking 150 percent since 1990—the highest such increase recorded for any country in the world—according to an annual report issued by the child advocacy group, Save the Children. According to the report, in 2005, the last year for which reliable data is available, one in eight Iraqi children—122,000 in all—died before reaching their fifth birthday. More than half of these deaths were recorded among new-born infants, with pneumonia and diarrhea claiming the greatest toll among Iraqi babies. The infant mortality rate has long been considered one of the key measures of societal progress and wellbeing. The astounding figures recorded in Iraq are an accurate reflection of the social devastation wrought both by the US invasion of 2003 and more than a decade of US-backed economic sanctions that preceded it. "Conservative estimates place increases in infant mortality following the 2003 invasion of Iraq at 37 percent," according to the Save the Children report. The implications of such a change—in the space of just two years—are staggering. Given the steady escalation of the armed conflict in Iraq and the continued deterioration of social conditions for masses of people in the country, the rate of increase in infant and child deaths was no doubt even greater over the course of 2006. The report blamed the horrific decline in infant and child health since the invasion on the steadily worsening living conditions for the Iraqi population as a whole, including "electricity shortages, insufficient clean water, deteriorating health services and soaring inflation." This overall destruction of basic social infrastructure unleashed by the US invasion and occupation has been translated into a horrendous decline in child health. "Only 35 percent of Iraqi children are fully immunized, and more than one-fifth (21 percent) are severely or moderately stunted" as a result of malnutrition, the study found....." iraqsolidaritycampaign.blogspot.com So what do you see when you "look" into the eyes of the Iraqi children. And which children's eyes did you look into? Was it the eyes of the children of the Iraqis who were contracting with the Americans, or was it the eyes of the children in Sadr City, Fallujah, and many of the other places in Iraq which have been so decimated by war? If you think good intentions excuse vile acts you've got it way wrong. And don't think those children will forgive you for it when they grow up. Happy Memorial Day. Ed

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1036)	5/28/2007 8:18:36 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

I heard Martha Radditz on Fresh Air today, talking about Iraq. She said when al Sadr launched his insurgency in Sadr City in 2004, he used the tactic of putting children in the first row of the attack, then old people in the second row, then Mahdi gunmen shooting from behind. Thus they gained some extra time, since the American soldiers waited to shoot until the very last moment when they had to shoot no matter what; it was kill or be killed. Did you hear anybody report this in 2004?