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To: Richnorth who wrote (161)	3/21/1998 11:42:00 AM
From: Dwight Taylor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1615

Thanks for the link. Your comment with respect to the discrediting of contrarians reminds me of John Lennons' song "Imagine". Imagine no religion. What remains when there is no religion is a void, which is in essence a religion in itself. For man to exist with no religion is not likely. Many remote tribes of the Amazon, New Guinea, for example have been discovered to have some religious rituals that respect a higher authority. That a dogma is created and supported by the faithful through generations creates an absolute truth amongst the followers. To upset that dogma via alternative thoughts is heresy. To condemn free-thinkers as heretics and condemn them is a witch hunt. The irony is that the witch hunters are the wicked for their acts of condemnation. Hitler burned books, and imprisoned and murdered the free-thinkers. God created us as thinkers, some men push God aside and usurp our freedom. Those men are not friends of God, and therefore he must be on the opposite side. As it says in the Bible watch out for the false prophets.

To: Richnorth who wrote (161)	3/21/1998 2:36:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1615

Rich, I respect your points of view. I would caution you with every possible sincerity I could find in a thesaurus, which I don't have one, sorry, to beware of anything you read from this point on about anything concerning your soul once it leaves this dear body. The problem is, it will. And of all the things we have had enough scientific proof of at this point, is that with our advanced little machines in mega-buck hospitals, they now know that people who were in fact in a dead body went out and strolled or were pulled to somewhere beautiful OR somewhere absolutely frightening and horrible during that period of 5, 20, whatever minutes of clinical death. As I type I caution us all that NOT ONE OF THESE HUMANS PROVEN BY MEDICAL EQUIPMENT TO BE DEAD EVER REPORTED THE ABILITY TO SIMPLY WALK AROUND DOWN TOWN LIKE A GHOST. They each and every one reports they were drawn without going on their own to a place of great beauty or a dark place that still haunts them, and ALL of those people now state they are going to church. I don't lie about anything, North. Am very intelligent and very well read and not at all stupid from an early age. Just want you to know you're not talking to some poor dumb cracker you all want to believe the group that really believes in Jesus Christ seems to be. Actually, we include also several, if not a majority, of the greatest minds of all times. The only problem is, suddenly "revisionary" humanistic libraries all have new books finding them to have all consorted somehow with the black arts. But originally, the actual people were believers, as are major scientists right now. To get a who's who of Christians at the top, check into CBN sometime. I'm shocked who they bring in . CBN NOOOOOOTTTTTT TBN. Can't stand it. Just a thought. Your Cambell I have watched closely on his video seminars the PBS guys just love. My take? You might not like me, so I wouldn't matter much, but the eyes, the words are those of very dark-spirited man. Who knows darn well what he's doing, and serves a god not named Jesus. That's my definite feeling on the matter, and give me time I'll prove it.

To: Richnorth who wrote (161)	3/22/1998 1:02:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1615

To acknowledge a work which appears in l930, which presumes to contradict and introduce a new Son of God, more devious and same-sex oriented than the original, and of course a seeker of the ancient mysteries of original worship of the lord of the underworld, which is all they ever worshipped in Egypt, or the person talking about Egypt obviously knows nothing about the "religious" source of the "gods" of Egypt...welll, what is the historical references, and where are these most ancient hieroglifics (forgive me, hate to use the dictionary all the time and don't have a spell check here), papyrus remnants, clay tablets, whatever, that began this AMAZING history of Jesus seeking the occult arts 400 miles away through the desert. Surely this amazing tale of what--a camel trade route, he worked his way their driving camels? Loading unloading? He walked? He went alone? With fellow seekers of Egyptian pagan arts? Oh, he went with Essenes...except Jewish history ALWAYS usually leaves the Essenes right there outside Jerusalem basically. I seek myself to study these ancient references for validity. Could you please post them here taken directly from the scholarly and obtuse bibliography they must be based on. Surely, of course, they are based on some form of historical evidence, aren't they? What is the earliest point of reference in the bibiolography? This is important stuff, so I hope you will help me. All I saw in person was that vile little "Secret Gospel of Thomas" Unfortunately, it was only discovered, when, in l982? I have no idea what year, I'm just guessing. That's when the real onslaught to paint Jesus Christ not only as a guy who was sleeping around, but one that also went both ways. The truly homosexual writers apparently like to paint time as only lusting after male members. I have been very lacking in their historical witnesses who recorded these deeds, however, and sorely ignorant of where these priceless manuscripts are now housed. This is important stuff, North, so I hope you can give me some ancient stuff here to research. Thank you very much for anything you do.