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Gold/Mining/Energy : Alternative Fuel Systems ATF:VSE -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: bc who wrote (504)	3/29/1998 5:34:00 PM
From: mariner	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4605

Bonnie I have lurked here for sometime and respect all the work you put into the thread. Am kicking myself now for not buying in a few months ago. While ATF story is hopeful can I ask the hard economic question. We all agree that the tech is positive for the environment, but does it make $$ sense? I believe the systems cost approx $2000 per vehicle. Who pays for this? Is the cost of NG fuel so much lower that it will help amortize the upfront investment? If not, who will finance the upgrades? Does it make business sense? Remember there are a lot of green technologies out there that work, but don't have a sound business case. Does ATF? Can you or any others shed light on this. Believe me I would love to see a positive answer to this question. Thanx and keep up the good work on this story.

To: bc who wrote (504)	3/29/1998 6:13:00 PM
From: Campbell Cu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4605

to: S & B Clouthier (503) I think we should not enhance Mr.Baines' importance anymore than he deserves. More to the point, let's everyone keep in mind the fundamental reasons why we invested in this company. I believe and so do all of you that the company has made a major breakthrough with the Mexican deal. As Rob Winston(500) pointed out, the new investors have been spared the pain of development work and the long wait for natural gas infrastructure construction in most target countries is over. They will be rewarded as a lot of the old investors lost patience and left them their stocks at a bargain price. Laurel Yturalde was very clear on this in her articles on the Investor Digest and so are the Financial Post articles. I believe the Japanese are still working with the company closely. We possibly may have more good news soon. As for Mr. Baines, let me point out to all that he also trashed Diamond Fields and Robert Friedland when the stock was at $8 and caused a lot of investors to lose money, and the stock finally closed out at over $160 when it was bought out. Another so called great expose of his was Delgratia Resources which was a downright scam from day one which any astute investor can see. But the great Mr. Baines waited for the stock to reached $34 US before releasing his article, could this be for a much greater short profit. Furthermore, Bonnie, take note that in Saturday's article he also trashed Investor Digest, Financial Post, Laurel Yturalde, the CBC National news editorial staff(Dec.31,1997) aside from ATF. Fianancial Post is one of two of Canada's most prestigious NATIONAL business paper. Investor Digest is subscribed nationally through Canada and the US. Please let's not put the Vancouver Sun business section in the same category. Fluff belongs on a kitten not in a business paper.

To: bc who wrote (504)	3/29/1998 8:47:00 PM
From: Bulltrout	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4605

Does anyone have access to BC insider info on Gerhard Klopp? Has he been involved in other stock promotions. Does he have what it takes to keep promoting this stock, and can he fight off the shorters and what kind of stock are he and the prinicpals have. Also, how has he been trading his own shares. BC Insider Trading is available from Canada-stockwatch but I can't sign on anymore unless I pay and I am hesitant to give them my Credit Card #. Is this guy a quality promoter?