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To: Ibexx who wrote (12548)11/24/1998 12:27:00 AM
From: Frederick Smart  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Well The Buck Finally Stops Here.......

>>Let's create a Global Network that really leverages the pent up power of individual initiative and creativity that's out there in a way that can provide the greatest benefit to global commerce. >>

Well said!!

>>Wake up world! Let's break Microsoft in two - so we can see firsthand how it competes on a level playing field with every other software firm. To compete and survive against Microsoft today is not unlike trying to fight with both arms tied behind your back.>>

Those arms are now free to swing, fight, write, throw. And MSFT just might be broken up as well.....

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Subject: Thievery Treatise
Date: Sat, Mar 7, 1998 13:33 EST
From: Ida5683 - that's me
Message-id: <19980307183300.NAA15739@ladder03.news.aol.com>

Thanks Intrubl:

You know Gate's is really running scared when he tries to pull off this crap right smack in the middle of his week of testimony before Congress concerning the impact of the MS/Windows monopoly.

Let's all try to keep the image firmly in our mind about what really is going on here.

pass to the bottom if you want to..................

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MS / Windows History of Thievery Review

Remember, when you think of Windows think of the old proprietary gauge RR Tracks of the 1800's - before standard guage tracks came to fore. We all have to remember that Gate's stole his way to power and did not have to life a finger to build his RR.

1) He started out by practically stealing DOS from an innocent Seattle developer while securing the rights to the OS in the original deal with IBM that put MS on the map. From there, he repeated the same practice with every additional feature in every additional upgrade:

2) Ported over the best features of OS/2 while working with IBM - essentially using every key feature and more in his own version, called "Windows" - the first Mac-like user-friendly interface for the PC-world.

At the creation of Windows his made sure any links to competing OS's - such as DR-DOS - were erradicated - sealing MS's "closed approach" to doing business.

3) He missed the boat with the online revolution - chosing to instead rattle sabers with AOL for a period of 2+ years while his own MS Network tried, but failed, to take a proprietary, closed approach to an initial build-out.

Switching gears, he left all the original MS-Network content providers high and dry when he announced the switch over to the Internet - doing away with his attempts at building proprietary hooks and tools such at Blackbird, etc.

4) Meanwhile he tried to buy Intuit but failed. Now he's decided to use MS Money combined with new financial message protocols as his trojan horses to invade Intuit's and the financial services market though automated message transfers from financial institutions containing securities positions, cash values, etc. Some financial institutions such as Schwab and others are taking the bait, thinking they can create additional market share by making it
easier for investors to link their financial assets to these programs and data transfers. Eventually - and very quickly I might add - financial cos. that take this bait will lose the contact with end users for Gates intends on becoming the "Universal Financial Input GUI" for all transactions, etc.

5) With explosive advent of the Internet at hand and Netscape rising to world networking leadership, MS had to buy/licence their browser from Spyglass - and it wasn't until they gave this away - through bundled deals with OEM's - before Internet Explorer originally took off.

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contnued.......

Every advancement/development MS has undertaken is a simple exercise in the following picture:

Since Gates controls the tracks AND his own cars and engines, any competitor who tries to hook onto HIS train is simply uncoupled. Gates simply change the couples, the track gauge - or if this is an electric train, simply changes the voltage - or whatever he has to do to destroy the "other cars, engines or services" that happen to have tried to co-exist on HIS tracks. He's doing this to Java as we speak and he just might get away with it.

I really get furious over attempts by anyone to portray Microsoft in any other light that for the SOB ball-busting, underhanded, lying, thieving, selfish, closed, proprietary thug/system that it is and continues to promote for its own benefit.

If one tries to argue that a MS-based NOS - the MS Information "RR Tracks" if you will - is a national asset, then for Gods sake, let it be regulated! Someone has to ensure the track sizes stay uniform or whatever.

I just don't think this is the right approach. Rather, I'd advocate that all NOSs be required to be "open" in such a way that encourages the creation and development of cross platform solutions that unify the existing information infrastructure. Once an NOS gains the majority of market share, some commisison or regulatory body should be required to monitor the degress to which that system is "open" or whatever so ensure it remains "open" etc. The
company that develops a NOS that achieves such majority market share should be required to removed that division from the competition in the areas of software application and development.

Allsopp and other MS bandleaders argue that MS is a national treasure that must be allowed to continue in its monopolistic ways for the "greater good" of mankind for the way it will unify and standardized the network infrastructure of the emerging Global Network. This is not unlike saying in the old days prior to the creation of this great country of ours, that the King of England is ENTITLED to his god given right to the thrown and all its power
and control over the people. I wonder how much Stewart gets for his fealty.

Gates and Microsoft are severely holding back the progress of the creation and advancement of a Global Network that's open for anyone and anything.

Ultimately, Gates knows that, while he may have an inferior NOS, cheap/trashy technology, the fact is "He who controls the desktop can eventually control the client."

Congress and the U.S......please WAKE UP!!! End the monopoly. Excuse me for being patriotic - and so long-winded again - but let's get on with the game of advancing the causes of openness and freedom. Let's create a Global Network that really leverages the pent up power of individual initiative and creativity that's out there in a way that can provide the greatest benefit to global commerce.

Wake up world! Let's break Microsoft in two - so we can see firsthand how it competes on a level playing field with every other software firm. To compete and survive against Microsoft today is not unlike trying to fight with both arms tied behind your back. Problem is, Gate's and MS is the one doing the "tying" in this fight. These practices should not be allowed to continue. It's not too much different from trying to survive as a small
business owner in Russia today - you have to pay juice to the mob, leaving you too weak to grow to any significant size - unless of course you sell you entire soul to the Mob in the serice and support of its continued dominance and power. Its very hard to break these forces - money is power and MS has the money and the power.

Here's the full story on MS's latest monopolistic attempt to decouple, de-rail and destroy the exciting pure/open Java initiative.

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Posted at 10:30 p.m. PST Thursday, March 5, 1998

Microsoft makes new attack on Java / Revised version binds programming languages closer to Windows platform

BY JODI MARDESICH
Mercury News Staff Writer

Microsoft Corp. is preparing to announce a revised version of the Java programming language for Windows-based computers, in what some developers say is an escalated attempt to undermine Java.

The new language is based on Java and essentially alters the Java language itself -- a language designed to run on any type of computer operating system, rather than just on the market-leading Windows. Critics say this hits deeper than earlier attempts by Microsoft to subvert Java, and threatens to fragment the community of programmers who use the language.

''This is the battle of the titans,'' said Scott Dietzen, vice president of marketing for WebLogic Inc., in San Francisco. ''Is Microsoft trying to offer a better Java platform for people who want to use Java on Microsoft platforms or are they trying to take Java away from Sun?''

Microsoft refused to comment on its efforts, which it plans to make public next week.

The company presented its new Java strategy on Tuesday to a group of software developers, who are key to its acceptance. The new language was in large part the same as Java, but added two new key words.

It's unclear whether Microsoft will still call the language Java or attempt to use another name. But the presentation was accompanied by an inch-thick handbook titled ''Java Technology Preview.'' It's also unclear whether applications written in the new language will operate
only on Windows-based PCs or also on other platforms.

''They tried to avoid characterizing it as Java, but it was clearly their Java strategy,'' said one of the Java company executives who attended the Tuesday meeting.

Microsoft has made attempts to undermine Java in the past. It refused to fully support Java in its latest release of the Internet Explorer browser, leaving out some key elements of Java and saying that it wasn't bound under its contract to add every refinement Sun says it must
include. That led Sun to sue Microsoft last October for breach of contract and trademark infringement. (The suit is ongoing.) Microsoft has also promoted J/Direct, a low-level tool that lets programmers use Java to write programs that can only run on PCs that use Windows.

A Sun executive said Microsoft doesn't have the right to change Java and still call it by that name. ''It isn't Java if you change it,'' said Jon Kannegaard, vice president of software products at Sun's Javasoft division. ''The point of Java is that it runs on a lot of different
systems and devices and it's the same.''

Although Kannegaard had not yet seen the new language, he and others expect that applications written using the variant are not going to run on anything but Windows. The changes, which amount to the addition of two new key words to the Java language, are comparable to adding foreign words to the English language. The words can be spoken freely, but there's no guarantee that a listener will understand them. In the same
way, an application written using the new keywords may not be understood by the virtual machines, or software that interprets Java applications, on any other platform besides Windows.

The upside of the new plan, according to developers, is that it will be easier to write more elaborate Windows applications in Java. As a part of its efforts, Microsoft is introducing a new set of software building blocks, called Windows Foundation Classes, and credited Anders Hejlsberg specifically for creating Windows applications using Java. Hejlsberg was
a top engineer at Borland Inc. who left for Microsoft in 1997. The company also said that for computers to understand applications written using the new key words, it will introduce a faster virtual machine for Windows that can interpret the new code.

At its presentation Tuesday, Microsoft also demonstrated a new programming tool, called Visual J++98, that programmers raved over.

''If Microsoft has made changes that make the byte codes incompatible with the Java (virtual machine), I don't think that it will attract too many existing Java developers,'' said Tom Hill, chairman of the Palo Alto-based Software Forum's Java special interest group. ''On the other
hand, I develop Windows applications, too, and I'd be happy to write those in a language better than C++ (the current favorite for Windows-oriented programming).''

Microsoft took the wraps off its initiative one week before Sun holds its annual Java One conference for Java programmers, on the same day that Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates was being grilled by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and other members of a Senate subcommittee about competition in the software industry.

David Gee, program director for Java marketing at IBM, said he was not surprised by Microsoft's latest move. ''Microsoft is aggressively trying to tie developers to their single platform closed environment,'' Gee said. ''I think for the Microsoft faithful, it's a logical progression, but for enterprise developers, they will see this for what this is -- closed and proprietary.''

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Ida5683



To: Ibexx who wrote (12548)11/24/1998 1:10:00 AM
From: ToySoldier  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74651
 
lbexx (OT),

I thought I had to prove myself on my statement (felt obliged)...

On March 17th...
Message 3632150

Pure Gut Feel Guess on Novell price based on technology and industry situations (please no one bet the farm on these predictions):

By April: $9
By June: $11
By August: $13-$16
By October: $18-$23


On May 14th...
Message 4451761

This stock will now begin its slow but sure climb into the upper teens by late fall.

On May 18th...
Message 4495334

NOVL's price will stay above $11 after this week. I predict that the share price will build in spurts to the upper teens by November.

and finally on July 14...

I still see $18-$20 in Dec. Q4 earnings surprise, NDS on NT, and the success fruits of NW5 will all come together in the Nov-Dec timeframe to push NOVL's stock near or even of the $20.

My March prediction prediction on $18 was a month early (OOPS). I feel I have verified.

NOVL's Q4 earnings report is this afternoon.

Toy