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To: Loring who wrote (25098)1/22/1999 5:00:00 PM
From: Spartex  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42771
 
Sorry, I'm not Paul F.

<<Paul F.: Does "Digital Me" fill the bill for the NOVL consumer internet product you're looking for? If so, how do they market it? Thru ISPs? Thru browsers? What do you think? >>

backtrack to one of his posts, and then press reply. that way he'll know when he logs in that there is a reply in his In Box.

Speaking of DigitalMe, I found an interesting article in today's Wash. Post titled:

Intel Chip to Send ID Code

search.washingtonpost.com

I'm interested whether this would compete at all with Novell's NDS, DigitalMe project. Anyone have any thoughts, comments or opinions?

TIA, QuadK



To: Loring who wrote (25098)1/22/1999 8:35:00 PM
From: ToySoldier  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42771
 
Loring,

I would guess NOVL will create an Internet Portal from their own site. They talked about moving at "Internet Speed". This might be one of their first Internet plays using their NDS technology. Digital Me would be accessed similar to the way one accesses Yahoo, Amazon.com, etc.

They will be demonstrating it at Brainshare where each attendee will be provided with a Digital ID. Remember that the XML must also be available and I might be lost on this one but Netscape and IE do not yet have XML implemented in their client since it is an emerging standard pushed by MSFT (but here I might be wrong).

You all are right that Digital ID stores all unique personal info and preferences for each unique web site on the Internet. Provides the Internet user/consumer with Single Sign-on. There was more to Digital Me than that but that was the highlight.

Toy



To: Loring who wrote (25098)1/22/1999 9:28:00 PM
From: Paul Fiondella  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 42771
 
"Digital Me" and you

Is there more than this out there about it? Because based on what Toy wrote, his description isn't what I mean. Here is what I mean.

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The purpose of having a digital identity is to PREVENT IMPORTANT AND PERSONAL INFORMATION FROM BEING READILY AVAILABLE OUT ON THE INTERNET BY PLACING IT SECURELY IN ONE VAULT.

Suppose for example you want to buy something from Amazon. Instead of establishing an identity at Amazon (an account) with all of your personal info, you just enter your universal identity code (one number). That is all you give Amazon and/or anybody else. Amazon then issues a time sensitive code, and the billing information (items purchased) and forwards your identity code and Amazon's identity code to the Novell vault. The vault checks your code, Amazon's code and then contacts you to verify that you have placed an order with Amazon. You verify by returning to the vault your signature code (a second code that is only known to you and the vault). Once verified the vault returns an okay to Amazon and does the billing. Amazon receives the bill to ship to info from the vault. (the extent of the public info about you disclosed to the merchant) Amazon is no longer involved in billing at all. Amazon never knows any of your personal information beyond shipping information, your public id # and what you ordered.

Who runs the vault? Novell. In a fashion that guarantees the public absolute security. IT never discloses any of your credit card info to any of the internet merchants. It deals directly with the credit card companies (Mastercard & Visa etc.) and does the electronic billing for the merchant. The side benefit is that no child that gets ahold of your credit card can use it to go on a spending spree. No thief can steal from you because those internet sites that adopt this method have no use for any of the personal information a thief might steal.
No merchant can sell your telephone number, address, mother's maiden name, and ss number so that you lose all of your personal security (as inevitably all of us on the internet will if something similar is not adopted soon.).

To make Digital ME happen there has to be trust between the user and one company --- Novell. I for one would be willing to pay Novell an annual fee for this service.
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From Toy:

- Novell annouced a new NDS/XML enabled application called
"Digital-Me" which will store all of a person's unique identities
within the Internet. It was an incredible demo! You would log into
a website - the ID you use will be your Object in the NDS tree.
Then you will see your profile of all the web-sites that require a
user-ID and Password and any other unique information
requirements. NDS will store all this information so that when you
click on the Delta Airlines, it will bring you right into the site
using your ID information for Delta. Then you can click on
Amazon.Com and all the login information and credit card info
will automatically be provided to the site. You can also create and
maintain other contact info and lists to other users and control who
can and cannot see the info. All this info is controlled by NDS and
its security. I cant do this thing justice. It will be fully demoed at
Brainshare. And Novell can thank MSFT for pushing the XML
standard because it gives Novell so much capabilities to further
demonstrate and extend its NDS capabilites into the internet space
- like this Digital Me does



To: Loring who wrote (25098)1/23/1999 12:55:00 AM
From: PJ Strifas  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42771
 
I think this does make a statement for Novell becoming an e-commerce platform.

Let's see, you and I can start up a company that caters towards personal privacy and security for internet users. They create their profiles which we store in "Digital Me" and then market that to consumer websites for e-biz.

Once we get the websites to ante up (perhaps allowing us to advertise for a discounted rate) and instructing their users to sign up for our service, we release an IPO and YAHOOOOOOO!

Ok, so I'm smoking something or worse yet, my visionary sight needs glasses but there are no limits to what an inventive company (or 20) can do with "Digital Me".

Hey, you think Dr. Schmidt has elbowed Steve Case (Mr. AOL) and said, "Hey, wanna see something?"

Just some thoughts...

Peter