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To: JDN who wrote (27199)1/28/1999 10:35:00 PM
From: fma  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 31646
 
Ok, here goes. This will be sort of folksy because I'm too tired to do an edit. First, I reviewed JDN's earlier post and he has captured the conversation perfectly.

JDN has dropped some information on this thread in the past about himself. He is a retired auditor from a big 5 or 6 or whatever accounting firm with a special expertise in scaring the poop out of corporation types trying to evade SEC rules. He's got one of those gruff, gravely no-nonsense voices that if you were to here it on the phone late at night you'd swear you'd been targeted for a mafia hit.

After a brief introduction, JDN took over for the first twenty minutes of the conference and he and Doug Kelso and TAVA's corporate attorney talked some language vaguely reminescent of high cambodian. Hardrocker and I participated too, albeit peripherally, with comments like "yeah", "that's what we think", "right on", and "Yo bro".

Actually, the way JDN and Doug were asking and answering each other's questions, it really did begin to make sense to us. I admit I started with the premise that TAVA had pulled a fast one on us with the options package not being authorized by shareholders, but I too was left with the impression that this was a legitimate practice (authorizing the options package in advance then going through authorization proecess at SHM). I think we made it clear to management that without clarification, this had caused many people consternation.

Like JDN, I was amazed how amiable and interested our company officers were toward our input. At no time did they challenge the three areas that we raised as concerns: compliance and internal controls, IR, and PR. I thought there was no way we would have more than thirty minutes with the four chief officers of this company. I had a prior committment which demanded my leaving after one hour, and Fallon, Kelso, Jenkins and counsel, continued to make themselves available to answer in detail, our concerns.

About ten minutes into this call, I stopped monitoring my blowout indicators, and really began to feel that there was a willingness and committment to improve the relationship between investors and company management

John having temporarily exhausted his accounting questions, and having softened up the opposition, yielded to Hardrocker whose role was to argue that TAVA's PR was ineffective, uncoordinated, and
needed a major infusion of new talent and committment. Whereas JDN's presence is enough to make you want to pack several extra pairs of shorts in your suitcase, Hardrocker's deceptive monikor hardly prepares one for the soft-voice, intelligent, reasonable, moderate voiced individual behind it. Hardrocker researched months of PR releases, and presented our concerns with PR's that didn't say anything, or were ill timed, or didn't take advantage of Y2k general issues.

The problem was that Hardrocker's presentation was so polite that JDN and I, pumped up and raging on the sidelines, couldn't stop ourselves from jumping in. I can't remember what I ranted about, I think about needing a PR firm with prominence that could package TAVA's concepts within the framework of Y2k and Post Y2k work, and train TAVA's management about the importance of public information. Doug was a little hurt about this citing the WSJ article and the recent research report, but John openly acknowledged that this was an area they were committed to improving. Hardrocker kept us on task, and with his examples, John offered how TAVA could have presented guidance and figures without violating confidentiality relationships with different companies. This part was great and Doug and Kevin really followed John's and Hardrocker's suggestions.

One of JDN's suggestions was to improve the website with a CEO corner where John could provide information regarding the company to investors.Doug said he would look into this, and noted "We haven't done enough with the website and we certainly could improve it."

******* Big News.***** Kevin or Doug said the company was already in negotiations with two national PR firms, and the firms would handle both PR and IR functions. They hoped to have a decision within thirty days. They enthusiastically endorsed the idea of integrating PR functions within and without the company, and had the concept of a clear demarcation between the two. We should see changes shortly.

Like JDN and Hardrocker, I was impressed with the excitement and enthusiasm that leaked through their responses. They were confident without being arrogant, and open to a degree none of us were expecting. We pushed pretty hard, and they were clearly committed to improving their relationship with their investors. The enthusiasm was much like the attitude at last years SHM (this time last year), but I haven't picked up on the same level of excitement since June. They were a little like children before Christmas.

I felt so good about TAVA that for no other reason than I really like these guys I added to my position this afternoon, after selling half my position over the past six months.

Hardrocker will do a much better job of presenting the details and saying things that actually make sense. I will regret reading this in the morning and wish that I hadn't been so hasty. I'm going to sleep dreaming of Josef's TAVA hut in the Northwoods, only it's got my name on it and it is in Kona, HI. Other than that its exactly the same, except he's got a pine and I've got a palm, and his is an A frame and I have a lenai, and, oh you get it. Its on the beach right next to my TAVA Goddess sailboat (named for CK Houston) fma



To: JDN who wrote (27199)1/28/1999 11:39:00 PM
From: Hardrocker  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 31646
 
JDN and all,

Gosh, it's nice to see that everyone's so mellow this evening and having such a great time with my SI handle. (Actually, I had to come up with some reasonable login name because my real surname, Headbanger, is just too embarrassing for public disclosure. And no, SC, John Jenkins didn't have to refer to me as Mr. Hardrocker. He just calls me by my first name -- Punky). :o)

First and foremost, the call was excellent. Truly excellent. It was a great feeling to be in discussion with so many bright and insightful folks. Not only are the TAVA senior managers to be applauded for their candor and sensitivity, but fma and JDN receive a gushy, well-deserved vote of gratitude from me personally. Thanks to both of you for providing an avenue to express the concerns of many individual investors.

Now, regarding the issues of PR and IR. None of the following is intended to be a quote, but rather my synopsis of the theme:

John J. realizes that the company needs to ramp up the PR effort. He indicated, as we all knew beforehand, that a conscious decision was made some time ago to downplay the role of TAVA as a pure Y2K play. Rightly or wrongly, this decision was made and was driven by the outspoken concerns of many regarding the growth of TAVA's core business. (We've read and heard concern this many times, no?). At the time, Y2K companies had also fallen into general disfavor and so there may have been another valid reason to "distance" TAVA somewhat from the sector.

John also indicated that the pace of activity has been furious and that there has been a great tendency to keep "nose to the grindstone, butt in the air" running the company, building new relationships, garnering new contracts, etc. The tone was somewhat apologetic that, in this tidal wave of activity, some other matters (read: PR) probably suffered as a result. John was in no way defensive, but rather offered a reasoned response. He also indicated that Scott Liolios' hands were often tied because Y2K contract announcements and so forth are very sensitive matters to TAVA's clients. Great news for TAVA might represent negative news for the client. As an alternative to the typical contract announcement, JDN suggested that TAVA might consider releasing news which talks about the contract $$ without divulging the actual client. There was no commitment on this suggestion, but it seemed to be well received.

JJ also indicated that TAVA has been negotiating with two top consulting firms and should have made a choice within a month. The mission is to adopt a new strategy of creating a more pervasive awareness of TAVA, branding, image, and so forth. I envisioned that there may be a blitz campaign coming up in the near future. John did point out that TAVA has received some favorable mention in the WSJ and in trade journals such as Advanced Manufacturing Research. While the latter may have little meaning to most of us (no, not you, Rick Bulotta!!), it is actually significant in trying to build more credibility with analysts. And speaking of analysts, TAVA has held discussions with many and realizes that we need greater analyst coverage. Due to appropriate proprieties, there was no more discussion on this topic. But my fingers are crossed....

On the issue of IR, the main topic of discussion was better/more effective communication between TAVA and shareholders. Many of the "sore spots" about perceived insider sales, proxy issues and such could have been avoided entirely if we had received better information. The company painfully realizes this and hopes to implement a methodology in concert with the PR campaign referenced above. Several specific potential avenues were discussed as viable. I'm sure we'll see improvement in this area in the near future.

Fiiinnnallly, here were a few closing thoughts from Doug Kelsall:

In spite of some obvious weaknesses, TAVA has come a long way in the last 18 months. Institutional ownership has increased, exposure has increased, financial performance has increased -- these are things which will improve long term value for TAVA shareholders. Both Doug and John spend a lot of time with institutions, attracting new interest.

JJ also wished that we express that the use of stock options is definitely not a "giveaway game". It is a tool which gives TAVA great competitive advantage in attracting and retaining key personnel.

I'm sure I've left out several things, but my brain is pretty well dead right now. Thanks again to fma and JDN, and thanks to a great TAVA management team for giving us a chance to air our concerns. (HEY!! The sky ahead really DOES look blue!! Stay long and be happy with what's coming up next!!).

Best Regards,
Hardrocker



To: JDN who wrote (27199)1/29/1999 9:20:00 AM
From: Rick Bullotta  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 31646
 
So now can I get you to agree that JJ is a class act and a competent CEO? <g> They do have a solid team there at TAVA, and the feedback from you guys confirms many of the things I've been saying for months...in particular, TAVA's *very wise* desire to avoid an over-focus on Y2K as the heart of their business. I feel that TAVA is properly positioning itself for long-term value, and the financial performance that Jenkins & crew alluded to will give the impatient among us the necessary short term performance.

Execution on plan remains the main task ahead, but things are looking much rosier now.