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To: Zeuspaul who wrote (5892)	2/4/1999 11:23:00 PM
From: Clarence Dodge	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14778

zp I believe Spots said you would boot the KOT NT installation by first booting the IDE1 NT install. This is the first I'm hearing about this necessity. I must have missed that post. I'll try to go back and review. Clarence

To: Zeuspaul who wrote (5892)	2/5/1999 4:19:00 AM
From: Spots	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14778

Back to basics for a moment. First terminology: IDE1 - master on primary IDE controller. Natural boot drive. IDE2 - slave on primary IDE controller. Bios selectable alternate boot drive. IDE1 contents: Main NT install (NTFS). IDE2 contents: Win 98 (so far), backup Win NT (in 2002 at current rate of progress). IF we're together so far, then here's the plan I proposed (I emphasize that Clarence should make his own plan; this is a suggestion only): (0) Change IDE2 partition containing Win98 to Fat16. (1) Set bios to boot from IDE2. FORGET IDE1 in this procedure. It shouldn't be touched. But see comments. (2) Boot Win 98. IDE2 is now the C partition. (3) Install NT on IDE2. Comments: My original suggestion was to install NT on the C partition of IDE2. I don't personally see the problem with this, and it simplfies things, but Clarence doesn't want to back up NT along with this partition, and it's his gun, so he can put NT where he wants. There's a downside, which I'll get to below. A rather big one, unfortunately, that I just didn't think about in my earlier post. In fact, I recommend against it, but hey, it's Clarence's weapon, so ... To put NT in a separate partition on IDE2, which I assume will be NTFS, then add a step between (0) and (1) above: (0.5) Create and format NTFS partition on IDE2. I'd do this by booting NT from IDE1 and using disk manager, but if PM will do it, why not. Doesn't matter if this is a primary or extended partition, BUT if it's primary be sure the OTHER partition (the one with Win98) is the active primary partition. Otherwise 98 won't boot. Then continue as above. Here's the whole procedure: (0) Change IDE2 partition containing Win98 to Fat16. (0.5) Create and format NTFS partition on IDE2. (1) Set bios to boot from IDE2. FORGET IDE1 in this procedure. It shouldn't be touched. But see further comments. (2) Boot Win 98. Win98 partition on IDE2 is now the C partition. NTFS partitions on IDE1 and IDE2 are not visible to Win98. (3) Install NT on IDE2 (NTFS partition). Warning: You will have to be careful NOT to install it on IDE1, because, even though Win98 can't see the NTFS partitions, the NT install CAN see both of them. So Be Careful. After step 3, you will get a dual boot of NT/98 WHENEVER YOU BOOT FROM IDE2 with the bios. This is true whether NT is installed in its own partition or in the same partition as Win98. When the bios is set to boot IDE1, nothing will have changed. Further Comments: The downside of putting NT into a second partition on IDE2 is that, since the drive letter of the BOOT partition (where Win98 is) will be C whenever you boot from IDE2, here's what happens: THE DRIVE LETTER OF THE NT PARTITION WILL CHANGE EVERY TIME YOU CHANGE THE DISK CONFIGURATION. Every time you add/delete a partition; add a hard disk; anything. Now, NT is SUPPOSED to handle this, and on occasion it actually does, but any software you install on this partition which puts a drive letter in the registry, including some drivers (sound cards, say, with mixers and so on), will get NT upset. NT has no sense of humor whatsoever and tends to turn a putrid shade of blue when upset. I don't like blue myself; or at least not that particular shade. Not any more ... This is exactly the way MY boot drive is set up (my primary NT), so I know what I'm talking about. It's also what I've spent the most time trying to figure a way around for my new machine setup. Sorry I forgot this little item earlier, but anyhow, Clarence, I would put NT in with Win 98 and get on to other things myself. So you use an extra 80 megs backing up NT along with Win 98. So what? BFHD.

To: Zeuspaul who wrote (5892)	2/6/1999 2:48:00 PM
From: Clarence Dodge	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14778

zp I'm at the nt setup window asking for my computers name. I know names have been the source of conflicts before, here on the thread. Do I use the name already given to my computer (BigBoy) or do I modify that name for this second install of NT? The only little glitch so far has been that setup would not read my Kensington Trackball floppy when it asked for it. It just kept asking again after I put in the floppy. Not a concern, just making note. Clarence