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To: rudedog who wrote (148245)	12/1/1999 3:49:00 PM
From: jim kelley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

What you really are saying is you do not like the price point. That could change as DELL is known to reduce price quickly. The machine itself looks fine to me for the target space. It is simply not priced to compete with e-machines or Ipaq. This may turn out to be a blessing if those companies go under!

To: rudedog who wrote (148245)	12/1/1999 4:00:00 PM
From: Mike Van Winkle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

re: DELL had a year to get this ready - I thought they would do better. rude, you seem to be walking all around the major issue: one button service, usable by a novice, inexpensive to Dell to administer. The system behind this detail is what is behind the year, not what is inside the box. In regards to the box price, the price is comparable to other similar systems. The question I have is, what is wrong, don't you like the style and colors? <G> Cheers Mike

To: rudedog who wrote (148245)	12/1/1999 4:09:00 PM
From: Alohal	Respond to of 176387

Rudedog: Your view on farming out the product to SCI makes sense, thanks for pointing it out. But I have to agree that this product intro makes it seem like Dell doesn't understand the consumer market, or else they plan on taking a position only in the high end consumer space, a dangerous game IMO. I believe expectations were higher than this product intro could meet. The whole thing seems to have been "over thought". I would like to see Dell prove me very wrong here, perhaps by trotting out a number of new products targeted at various consumer sectors, particularly wireless and broadband products. Patiently waiting. Cheers Alohal

To: rudedog who wrote (148245)	12/1/1999 4:38:00 PM
From: D.J.Smyth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

rude "CPQ presario models offer way more features and performance for less money than the low end commercial products. They don't want any confusion in the consumer's mind about what product to buy." have listened to a considerable number of complaints regarding cpq's consumer line in regard to fixing technical problems and/or answering questions. receiving service on their consumer product line is not an easy process. it is possible only those with problems complain. heard a few about Dell too; but certainly more vocal complaints regarding cpq's service.

To: rudedog who wrote (148245)	12/1/1999 4:45:00 PM
From: Mike Van Winkle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 176387

Dog re: DELL, as John K and I have been pointing out, produced a consumer machine which has less stuff at a higher price than the low end of their commercial line. It is not even as good a consumer machine... except for the sexy form factor.<<< The Webpc is designed to be out of the box, plug in the wall for power, phone and use the machine. If it has a problem, push a button and get an answer. Dimension does not have this same design so you are comparing two different products and markets. Dell is even using two different web sites, get it? Cheers Mike

To: rudedog who wrote (148245)	12/1/1999 4:55:00 PM
From: Mike Van Winkle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 176387

Dog re: The reality of what DELL is doing supports many of the things I have said on this thread about the consumer business for many years, especially that there is little advantage to the BTO model in consumer. Economies of scale are achieved by large runs of a single product configuration. DELL's manufacturing model is not an advantage in the consumer space. From that standpoint, farming production to SCI was a smart move. Once a batch man always a batch man. The reality is that Dell's move in no way supports your contention. What Dell is doing now for an entry product is to expedite its manufacture for the Christmas market. Contracting is a more expensive way to build and I expect a short lived solution. Cheers Mike