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To: tekboy who wrote (14633)	6/2/2001 10:39:54 PM
From: Mike Buckley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22706

Tekboy, it makes obvious sense to try to keep both Palestinian and Israeli leaderships from blowing the situation up for good. How do you do that? --Mike Buckley

To: tekboy who wrote (14633)	6/2/2001 10:57:38 PM
From: kumar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22706

nice summary, ctb. a comment : Greatest possibilities for constructive US actions at this point seemed to lie in work with the surrounding countries to keep the conflict contained (warning Syria and Iran to stop messing around, soothing and bribing Jordan to keep it calm, working with Egypt and the GCC countries to make sure they don't make the situation worse). This approach could work, if the peace-broker(s) - maybe US, maybe Europe - could get to grips with the concept that it would take at least 1 generation to overcome current obstacles between the adversaries. cheers, kumar

To: tekboy who wrote (14633)	6/3/2001 7:12:22 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22706

"given that the Oslo phase of Israeli-Palestinian relations is over, what comes next?" Any answer I give, can be answered, as you did for UW, "and then what? Some points: 1) Given the nature of the the Religion and the level of tension, there is an unlimited supply of terrorists available who can be talked into blowing themselves up. 2) For the same reasons, if you killed off the Terrorist leadership, there is a second and third level ready to take over and keep the terror going. 3) No Israel Government can remain in power that does not answer these continuing acts of terror with force. 4) They are constrained by the pressure from us, caused in large part by the 2 Billion or so we give them every year, and world opinion. 5) Attacks on the general Palestinian population is exactly what Hamas and the rest of the extreme terrorist's groups want Israel to do. So what to do? Nobody knows. If I were Sharon, I would tell the Palestinian leadership to stop the Hamas and the rest of the terrorist leadership or I would take the Palestinian leadership out. And then what? Continue to move on the Leaders. Is this a long run solution? Of course not. There are no permanent solutions, in that area, in the foreseeable future. But people don't live in the long run. They live now. IMO, the only thing that will give results, short term, is the use of force, and lots of it.

To: tekboy who wrote (14633)	6/4/2001 12:17:12 AM
From: kumar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22706

working with Egypt and the GCC countries to make sure they don't make the situation worse u being the policy wonk, u're more current than me on GCC. IMO : Back in the mid 1980's and so on, GCC had a primary interest of "keep the Western world moderately happy",(some GCC countries at that time had "succession problems"), so the Western world was available to bail em out if the need arose, based on the leverage of oil. Israil was a thorn, but IMO, (atthat time) GCC countries used the palestine issue(s) as a pawn in the game. I suspect they will continue to do so.