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6560But if we have an honest dialectic, it will soon become your opinion, too.The Philosopher-6/23/2003
6559In the context, peace dealt with international strife, at that time particularlyThe Philosopher-6/23/2003
6558That's just YOUr opinion...one_less-6/23/2003
6557<i>"There is no way to peace; peace IS the way."</i> Depeone_less-6/23/2003
6556Yes, you have two different perspectives, but you don't seem to have a diffeThe Philosopher-6/23/2003
6555<i>"But actions based on those ideas might need to be prevented or opone_less-6/23/2003
6554<i>And that if one really wants to reach understanding of ideas, one firstLane3-6/23/2003
6553<i> My point is only that, if you can't persuade them that your beliefTimF-6/23/2003
6552<i> I apparently temporarily forgot the wisdom gained from earlier diThe Philosopher-6/23/2003
6551This is perfectly clear...good job.one_less-6/23/2003
6550huh? <i>"one couldn't possibly grasp the difference between cerone_less-6/23/2003
6549<i> Believing in God or not believing in a God are both opinions.<The Philosopher-6/23/2003
6548I've been away from SI too long--or perhaps not long enough. I apparently tLane3-6/23/2003
6547<i>"Karen believes in a consensus of experts</i>" Not unlSolon-6/23/2003
6546<i>"Which doesn't mean that none of them are true</i>"Solon-6/23/2003
6545That is what I thought you said. It would seem, then, that someone was misrepreSolon-6/23/2003
6544Karen believes in a consensus of experts, self-appointed or otherwise, with ex baverage joe-6/23/2003
6543<i>I'm just talking about knowing the difference between certaintThe Philosopher-6/23/2003
6542<i> One only needs to respect the fact that there are over 10,000 distinctThe Philosopher-6/23/2003
6541m-w.com synonyms CERTAINTY, CERTITUDE, CONVICTION mean a state of being free frLane3-6/22/2003
6540<i> the difference between the concepts of certainty and certitude </i&TimF-6/22/2003
6539<i>If you do truly believe that reason leads to infallible certainty as toLane3-6/22/2003
6538<i>I contend that the concept of certainty and the concepts of believing aLane3-6/22/2003
6537<i>"I am only asserting that, within the framework of Western cultureSolon-6/22/2003
6536<i>Now, if you want to frame the matter to include humans on some parThe Philosopher-6/22/2003
6535<i>But if your framework started with "God exists, the Bible is the WLane3-6/22/2003
6534<ggg> back atcha.Lane3-6/22/2003
6533What he appears to mean is that you rely on "logic" and "deductivSolon-6/22/2003
6532<i>What in the world are you talking about?</i> You have certain prThe Philosopher-6/22/2003
6531"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought withoaverage joe-6/21/2003
6530What in the world are you talking about? I know, as in believe <g>, thaLane3-6/21/2003
6529Actually, there is one more difference. They are probably more willing to die fThe Philosopher-6/21/2003
6528To you, they may be ignorant or stupid. To them, it is you who are ignorant or The Philosopher-6/21/2003
6527<i>Simply that some people "know" that God exists with the same Lane3-6/21/2003
6526<i>But the concept of certainty is different from the concepts of belThe Philosopher-6/21/2003
6525I realize that we use the word, know, loosely. I "know" that I do. BLane3-6/21/2003
6524<i>The second asserts that not only can we not be sure what is right but tLane3-6/21/2003
6523Beats me......Neocon-6/21/2003
6522<i> I thought we were all members of the human race,</i> WhenevThe Philosopher-6/21/2003
6521Well, if you want to be technical about it, we cannot "know" anything.The Philosopher-6/21/2003
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