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| 15433 | <i>"I think it is an old ideal......"</i> OK well whatev | one_less | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15432 | <i> I'm sure there is a study somewhere about selenium deficiency in b | Lane3 | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15431 | LOLOL! (One of my favorites)........ | Neocon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15430 | I do not think it is a new paradigm. I think it is an old ideal...... | Neocon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15429 | This is very wise, Euthyphro...<g> | Solon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15428 | Very good in all aspects except this line including the phrase "retributive | one_less | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15427 | <i>"There are lots of ways to study criminals without observing crimi | average joe | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15426 | Glad to find eventual agreement. | Neocon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15425 | <i>"As long as it is MY right and wrong, and in contention with someo | Solon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15424 | There have been a number of TV documentaries on this sort of thing in Zimbabwe a | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15423 | Very nice, if mistaken. The point about the Nazis, as well as the Communists, wa | Neocon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15422 | <i>"Actually, though, you are quite wrong about Nazis. They were rela | Solon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15421 | I found this snippet in Howard Kurtz's column in today's Post. << | Lane3 | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15420 | <i> I simply mentioned en passant what God has to say </i> How very | Dayuhan | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15419 | The DP as practiced in the U.S. is akin to the gladatorial executions of ancient | TigerPaw | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15418 | <i>Let's back up:</i> It's not backing up when you are chang | TigerPaw | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15417 | <i>My only concern is that a victim should be satisfied. </i> That | Lane3 | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15416 | OK. First draft. All comments welcome. "Sentencing" Guidelines for | Lane3 | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15415 | Zimbabwe Whites Told It Is Against Law To Farm Land From Jan Raath in Harare T | E | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15414 | The links are broken, but they were just jumps to the text which was below it; t | jttmab | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15413 | If you want to accuse me of doing an injustice to relativists, fine. All the res | Neocon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15412 | <i>"You would find satisfaction in the punishment and I wouldn't. | average joe | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15411 | <i>"I said absolutely nothing about the spirits of mists and cloud, b | Solon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15410 | If you ever showed the slightest interest in attending to me, instead of shadow | Neocon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15409 | Our concern is not perfect justice, but the magistrate's responsibility to u | Neocon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15408 | <i>I think a society is morally decadent when a killer is worth more than | Lane3 | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15407 | I hold no objection to your perfect right to indulge a belief in some absolute m | Solon | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15406 | <i>"If we were to have perfect justice it would be a condition in whi | average joe | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15405 | <i>"I see no point in abandoning the standard of justice because it i | one_less | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15404 | I think a society is morally decadent when a killer is worth more than the crime | average joe | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15403 | <i>In 1612, Virginia's governor, Sir Thomas Dale, implemented the Divi | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15402 | <i>You don't get a DP if you commit a crime JUST for monetary gain and | average joe | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15401 | You don't get a DP if you commit a crime JUST for monetary gain and that' | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15400 | <i>Wars, especially successful wars cause decision makers to think of war | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15399 | You are out of your bloody mind. You really are insane. | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15398 | The contents behind that link seems to have disappeared. The first page comes u | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15397 | Pure biased ignorant guesswork. Why am I not surprised? | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15396 | <<I think that the death penaly is closer to ritual cannibalism than to ei | Ish | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15395 | See you later, all...... | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15394 | I see no point in abandoning the standard of justice because it is imperfectly a | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15393 | Well, you actually have the difference in front of you, in the reference to extr | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15392 | <i>"I want an open, aboveboard process where there is generalized agr | one_less | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15391 | <i>I especially agree with your re-location of "punishment."< | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15390 | I've spent more than the usual time with the dictionary today making sure I | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15389 | I do not want to speculate on how people will experience things as individuals a | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15388 | <i>"Your "subjectivities" are worse the more complicated th | one_less | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15387 | We have eliminated the possibility of calibrating punishment that finely, or som | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15386 | <i>"Retribution is "just desserts"......</i> If you | one_less | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15385 | We seek to make a reasonable table of punishments to show the relative weight of | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15384 | I do not equate retribution with vengeance. Vengeance is venting anger, without | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15383 | Nice start. I especially agree with your re-location of "punishment." | one_less | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15382 | That is a point of view, of course. If there is an objective moral order, one c | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15381 | Just an illustration but you are welcome anyway. Let me try another approach. | one_less | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15380 | I doubt it, but thanks for the story..... | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15379 | Yep. The culture shapes the people. A culture of responsibility must include th | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15378 | <i>"Restoring the moral balance of the universe, at a minimum, means | one_less | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15377 | <i>"You assume that one is harming the guilty in pursuing his penance | Solon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15376 | <i>"Penance is essential. But penance requires both that one expiate | one_less | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15375 | <i>I am in upholding the idea that the primary purpose of sanctions is to | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15374 | Actually, I hadn't been talking about the death penalty, myself, although I | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15373 | <i>"We don't even know with any certainty that there is a balance | one_less | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15372 | <i>a society that is well- ordered</i> I think that the death penaly | TigerPaw | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15371 | Actually, Tandy died in 1994: Jessica Tandy Biography Versatile, commanding | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15370 | I'd say that is pretty good. | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15369 | Various notions are interconnected. We cannot live in a society where there is n | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15368 | OK, I'm not going to come up with a replacement for our system of justice in | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15367 | You assume that one is harming the guilty in pursuing his penance. I would say t | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15366 | <i>You are being unusually dogmatic today.</i> Sorry, don't mea | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15365 | <i>"Justice demands retribution as a way to restore the moral balance | Solon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15364 | Offending our sense of justice may be like offending our sense of symmetry, whic | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15363 | <i>I simply mentioned en passant what God has to say. I'm sorry if I o | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15362 | <i>"We're talking about two different things. You are talking abo | average joe | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15361 | <i>We do not do these things precisely because they offend our sense of ju | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15360 | If our goal is deterrence, or detention, each of which may protect against crime | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15359 | <i>Perhaps but that is up to God and nowhere in the ten commandments does | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15358 | <i>"I think"</i> [therefore you are] <i>"I have | average joe | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15357 | The actual actual reasons for death penalty seem closer to property crime and pu | TigerPaw | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15356 | <i>When someone is tried, he is being made accountable. When convicted, h | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15355 | Simple restitution will not suffice, because it does not make a gesture to cover | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15354 | Better than a null set...... | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15353 | So the penalty is about reparations? | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15352 | >>People in grief and anger will do many things that are not really a good | Bill Grant | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15351 | I will look into putting a straw man together for your consideration. | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15350 | Morality entails taking and/or assigning responsibility. If someone is responsib | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15349 | <i>And you base this on what? </i> It's just a guess based on A | TigerPaw | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15348 | I was raised staunch catholic by my grandmother, who was truly the matriarch of | Rainy_Day_Woman | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15347 | <i>"I'll bet we all have 'interesting' family background | Solon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15346 | <i>insane and noble. </i> Sick is a much more apt description. I re | TigerPaw | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15345 | <i>because one cannot be allowed to get away with it......... </i> | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15344 | <i>making war less legitimate</i> I meant <b>less</b> le | TigerPaw | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15343 | You take a utilitarian view of justice. Okay. I do not think it comprehends what | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15342 | <i>"The CLEAR implications of your statement is that Canadian busines | Solon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15341 | hi Charleymane, Nice to see you. And I'm enjoying those words of hope from | Poet | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15340 | The state is not trying to "uphold the sanctity of life", as if every | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15339 | Give me an example, or sketch out a new paradigm, and I might be intrigued. | Neocon | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15338 | <i>And they have to be interesting and original. </i> You're gr | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15337 | <i>. I find particularly bewildering the cases where a prisoner is driven | E | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15336 | And they have to be interesting and original. Not too many like that. | Tom Clarke | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15335 | I tuned into Reliable Sources late but I caught that part about the liberal resu | Lane3 | - | 6/24/2002 |
| 15334 | That article came up on Kurtz' TV show on Saturday. I didn't watch it, b | Tom Clarke | - | 6/24/2002 |