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| 15633 | And this says otherwise: pollingreport.com "If you could choose between the | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15632 | <i>Dead? Not under your model. No retribution, remember?</i> " | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15631 | <i>because he could end up out of society for the rest of his life or dead | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15630 | <i>You didn't answer THE crucial point:</i> Sorry, it looks lik | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15629 | <i>Yes, there is the occasional high profile case in which a violator who | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15628 | <i>Reparations are not sufficient for murder.</i> Well of course th | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15627 | <i>Your argument seems to amount to "If I'm famous, I get a pass | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15626 | You didn't answer THE crucial point: Suppose Bill Gates decides to kill you | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15625 | We don't have crime fighting tools. We have crime stopping or crime arrestin | one_less | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15624 | <i>I don't understand how reference to a generic "God" would | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15623 | <i>result in a return of Bill Clinton </i> Forget it. Never happen. | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15622 | <i>Taking the prosecutor's kidney? </i> NOW THERE'S AN IDEA! | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15621 | <i>more effective crime-fighting tools.</i> Such as? | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15620 | <i>A demographic study will produce profiles of those most likely to commi | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15619 | <i><BTW, If the threat of social opprobrium was a viable method of crim | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15618 | <i>Any system that can demand body parts <i> The system wouldn' | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15617 | BTW, If the threat of social opprobrium was a viable method of crime prevention, | Constant Reader | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15616 | Any system that can demand body parts of a convicted criminal as restitution is | Constant Reader | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15615 | Shall we assume that everyone who claims to be is and release them? Sure could | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15614 | We already have court ordered community service. The suggestion is to have the p | one_less | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15613 | <i>After your abscess, did you invest in an electric toothbrush?</i> | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15612 | <i>OH! OK! Then if he takes your life, he pays with his! Why didn't yo | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15611 | That could work, except: Now you've effectively brought back slavery. The | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15610 | Good to see you back too, Poet. Sorry about the last month or so. | Win Smith | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15609 | Nicely said, Win. It's always good to see you, my friend. | Poet | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15608 | I don't think that they should have added that language to the Pledge as cav | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15607 | He's going to combine your ice idea with Tiger Paw's scotch idea, I thin | Poet | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15606 | LOL!!! Even better effect! I should have done that. Not what the endodontist | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15605 | Creepy? Yeah, in some ways. In some ways, it accomplishes the purpose of a dea | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15604 | <ithe only Oglaroonians who ever leave their tree are those who are hurled ou | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15603 | <i>Put ice on it for several hours (applied to the outside of his face, of | TigerPaw | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15602 | "Under God" was inserted during the Cold War as a buttress against tho | Win Smith | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15601 | <i>If Bill Gates shot me and I lived but lost a kidney, then his reparatio | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15600 | I think this ruling could be the "straw" that got to Joe Camel. Frank | Michael M | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15599 | <i>Doing so might tend to unbalance the universe . . .</i> On that | Win Smith | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15598 | <i>"after paying their reparations, that is. Many of the have no mon | one_less | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15597 | <i>I'm not really here. ;-)</i> Your cat is walking over your ke | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15596 | <i>And you know these how?</i> You establish guidelines and standar | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15595 | Suppose there were a legal requirement that good physical evidence (such as DNA) | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15594 | Hi Laz, I'm not really here. ;-) Speaking of toothaches, Bill just had or | Poet | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15593 | Well, just skip the second step next time. :-) Thye don't call it "Th | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15592 | Welcome back. Need some novocaine? Or does that just add to the addiction? :- | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15591 | <i>Karen I think people will miss the implications of My straw man was fo | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15590 | <i>No, only those who are clearly one-time offenders. </i> And you k | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15589 | <i>That would seem to encourage vigilantism. </i> Yes, I would thin | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15588 | Laz, In Babylon 5 they punished at least some murders with "death of person | TimF | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15587 | Lots of perks come with fame. Maybe there should be some costs. Your argument | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15586 | Karen I think people will miss the implications of <i> <b> My stra | TimF | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15585 | I turned $12k into $36k and then back to about $1k. It was an expensive lesso | TimF | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15584 | <i>You may like the idea of God or Not. But if you think removing "Go | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15583 | That would seem to encourage vigilantism. 1 - Your punishment for the init | TimF | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15582 | <i>In 1997, 75 percent said they believed in the death penalty and only 22 | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15581 | You may believe in God or not. You may like the idea of God or Not. But if you | Michael M | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15580 | <i>Everybody in prison is innocent. According to them.</i> And somet | TigerPaw | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15579 | About time! | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15578 | Oh, oh, the 9th Circuit. The Left Wing of the US Judiciary. I'm surprised | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15577 | <i>everyone holds conflicting views all the time. It's part of the hum | TigerPaw | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15576 | Pleadge of allegiance ruled unconstitutional by three judge panel of 9th Circuit | Michael M | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15575 | <i>NOTHING lessens crime more reliably than the perp no longer being on th | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15574 | Come on, TP. Everybody in prison is innocent. According to them. THAT's t | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15573 | <i>(to me, anyway; maybe you're part of a school of thought?; I haven& | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15572 | <i> lost support, both logical, judicial and public.</i> Or maybe no | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15571 | <i>The effort by many to remain steadfast behind the action in the face of | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15570 | Yes, there is the occasional high profile case in which a violator who is rich, | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15569 | <i> Anger puts the desire for justice and fairness, and the desire actual | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15568 | I meant to say that the real sickness inherient in the Death Penalty are the end | TigerPaw | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15567 | I consider my point perfectly responded to and am impressed with your proposal, | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15566 | <i>O.J. is a hero in some segments of society. </i> That was my poi | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15565 | I don't comprehend this post. Literally. I think you left out some words. | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15564 | <i>Actually this argument is not really against the DP. It's against p | E | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15563 | Hi Charley, This place is as irresistible as a toothache. :-) I'm teasing | Poet | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15562 | At yesterday's Texas killing the victim used the only weapon available to hi | TigerPaw | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15561 | The sick part is the effect that killing prisoners after rendering them helpless | TigerPaw | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15560 | <i>"Social opprobrium" may be a deterrent in one society, or sub | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15559 | Tame or not, too many of em are agenda driven bs artists... | Tom Clarke | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15558 | Nice to see you too. This place is just irresistible, isn't it? I enjoy rea | Tom Clarke | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15557 | <i>The notion that we need to exact a measure of flesh, equivelant to some | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15556 | <i>And when you think about it, imprisonment does seem weird. <i> T | Lane3 | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15555 | The idea of imprisonment as a punishment for crimes is actually somewhat recent- | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15554 | The '90s were truly a bubble (in spite of what TP believes). Bubbles are u | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15553 | Hi E I havent been reading the thread at all but let me jump in here: Winona i | Kid Rock | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15552 | Actually this argument is not really against the DP. It's against prejudici | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15551 | O.J. is a hero in some segments of society. Another counter-example. | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15550 | <i> Back in '97, I looked at the market, decided everyone was out of t | TimF | - | 6/26/2002 |
| 15549 | <i>So how about: If you're black, right after the judge passes sentenc | E | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15548 | It might work in societies whose members have similar moral outlooks and are rev | E | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15547 | What do studies on, say, armed robbery charges show? I'd bet they show a st | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15546 | This is so blatant and tragic. People are on the verge of starvation. And how cy | E | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15545 | <i>I just bought other stocks that went in to the toilet instead :(</i& | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15544 | <i>But in fact it is not a lottery. At least no more so than life in gener | E | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15543 | Or, to put it differently, it wouldn't work. | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15542 | <i>True people where quicker to use the death penalty but poaching was con | average joe | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15541 | <i>Does anybody really think it was all the CFO's fault? </i> Uh | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15540 | <i>Zimbabwe Whites Told It Is Against Law To Farm Land</i> A terrib | Dayuhan | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15539 | <i>My beef is with the notion that retribution and punishment are not only | E | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15538 | Gotta love that headline... "oops, we found an error". Does anybody r | Dayuhan | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15537 | But in fact it is not a lottery. At least no more so than life in general. Som | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15536 | <i>"I understand that's your preferred model. But consider mine a | one_less | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15535 | I thought we were talking about a habeas corpus hearing. That's different f | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/25/2002 |
| 15534 | I have trust and confidence. I trust Charlie Manson to screw up royally again i | Lazarus_Long | - | 6/25/2002 |
